Project: Pure Innovation

[RevolutioN]

Right... its time for me to start a project which will be my last due to wasting too much money :rolleyes:

This rig will be based purely for gaming with the occasional web surfing and university work.

Unforunately i don't have all the components i need but thats only the third watercooling loop.

Specs are below: (reason doing this early - so no-one nicks my ideas/name :eek: )

*LONG LIST*

A64 4400x2
DFI SLi DR Expert Mobo
2x1Gb HZ4000 Gskill Ram
BFG 7800GT OC (sold, getting X1900series from HK :) )
2x250Gb Samsung Spinpoint SATA2 HDD
Seasonic S12 600w PSU
Sony DVDRW
Mattrix Orbital MX212
6 UV Cathodes
MountainMods Opti1203 Model in Black
BFG Ageia PPU

Loop 1 (CPU):

Swiftech Storm G4, Laing D5 Pump, Thermochill HE120.3mm Radiator, Innovatek Fass o'Matic reservoir including bay, 7/16" Muskaleer Tubing, 3xAkasa LED Green 120mm Fans, UV Dark Blue Dye.

Loop 2 (GPU):

EK GPU Block, Swiftech MCW60, Laing D5 Pump, Thermochill PA160.1mm Radiator, Tank o'Matic Reservoir, 7/16" Muskaleer Tubing, 1xPanaflo M 120mm Fan, UV Green Dye.

Loop 3 (Pheripherals) Aqua Computer:

Thermochill HE120.1mm Radiator with 8mm Quick Connectors, Aquaero VDF Display, Aquastream+Control Unit, Innovatek Flow Sensor, Water temp sensor, 2xAquaDrive Harddrive Cooler, Aqua Tube, Aquabay, Aqua Jet, 2xRamplex coolers, Twinplex Chipset cooler, 12ft 8mm Aquacomputer hosing, 1xPapst LL 120mm Fan, UV Red/Orange Dye.

Will get pics as soon as i get the case... its preordered but it'll be at least a week before it arrives back in stock :rolleyes:

[10modders]

how old are you?

[nyzrox]

why would you need to know someones name just because there doing a log, there over 16 as there in university

[RevolutioN]

I'm 20 BTW :rolleyes:

Um... might seem a little overkill for what i'm building but just to say that this will be future proof and in a few years time, all i have to do is upgrade the graphics and CPU only without having to mess more with watercooling. Its nice but its also too expensive... burnt a big enough hole in my pocket already... soon i'll have no trousers left :P

[UnreaL]

Your 3rd loop does seem a bit excessive, but I bet it'll kick ass!

Was gonna say - how will it all fit, but a mountainmods case, nice!

[f.sardis]

only need two loops with dual rads. i too dont agree with the third loop.

also, it cant be future proof since sockets and heatsink mounts keep changing every 2 years. amd for example in socket AM2 will be using a totaly different mount for the heatsink thus rengering current athlon64 blocks useless until/if there is a mount kit out.

[RevolutioN]

True but i don't plan on upgrading similar to my brother for at least another 3 years.. as all applications won't make full use of it.. same comparison with 32 and 64 bit.. over half the applications if not all still use 32bit

[RevolutioN]

little update as its been a little slow.

Got all of my parts apart from the case :( and Aquaero VDF Display, Aquastream+Control Unit, Innovatek Flow Sensor, 2xAquaDrive Harddrive Cooler, Aqua Jet, Aquacomputer Mosfet cooler, 12ft 8mm Aquacomputer hosing.... its not fair! :(

[RevolutioN]

This project has been put on hold as it will take a couple weeks longer than intended. Will ask Leeum to close this thread till ALL my components arrived. Sorry peeps

[RevolutioN]

Asked Leeum to reopen this thread as i've already had some work done to the case.... nothing major until i come back from Hong Kong on the 12th June :)

Got a few updates: (C&P from another forum :) )


http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6439/dsc010861oy.jpg
^^ Athlon64 X2 4400 and 2Gb Gskill HZ4000 mmm!


A biiiig box... i wonder whats inside?

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5665/dsc010733xm.jpg


After waiting a miserable 6 weeks my case has finally arrived. Won't bother saying much but here she is:

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1853/dsc010294ea.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2383/dsc010317gv.jpg


^^ Its masssive. The box alone takes up half of my Double bed!

Not only that but how many bl**dy screws do you need to take out to open the damn case!
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8185/dsc010330su.jpg

This is what the internal of the case looks like.. plenty of room for me to play around... i can probably lock myself in there if i tried :eek: :D

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2091/dsc010346vg.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7269/dsc010352qp.jpg

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http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8235/dsc010388pn.jpg

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^^The motherboard tray has roughly a 20mm gap at the bottom.. nice to feed cables and tubing through... kinda nifty.

[RevolutioN]

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1442/dsc010479ez.jpg
^^Kinda of a dark picture but as you can see, i had to divert the small rad (120.1) to the fan placement on the mobo side. My PA160 rad was far too big!

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5215/dsc010565zb.jpg
^^TC120.3mm rad test fitted with 3 120mm Akasa Green LED Fans

got my mobo... Storm G4 arrives Friday but wanted to get my PC up and running. Got work to doooo!

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9223/dsc011049hv.jpg
^^Just testing the fans.. cos' lost count how many times i accidently stepped on them :eek:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4337/dsc011385yv.jpg
^^Got the motherboard... very nice indeed :cool:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/674/dsc011419kd.jpg
^^Had some time off before going to work.. just to drill a few holes to attach the D5 pumps.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1673/dsc011422am.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5758/dsc011448cm.jpg
^^GPU Loop almost finished.. my hand aches cos' the tubing is one hell of a tight fit... you need to stick it in HOT water to make the tubing really flimsey... still its hard even when thats done.

[RevolutioN]

Not much of an update at the moment but for the *last* time, i'll be changing my upgrades.

Few goodies on the way including:

Swiftech Storm G4 CPU Block
Aquacomputer Aquaero, Aquadrive, 3metres of black tubing, Aquastream 10cm cable and a few black front plates.
Also ordering my new Eddy_EK EK-FCX1800 GPU Block

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/WAEK_001_1g.jpg
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/WAEK_001_2g.jpg


The log will be on hold in about a week or 2's time as i'll be going to Hong Kong for 3 weeks for vacation... but within that time, i'll hopefully be getting an X1900XTX maybe 2 and a DFI Crossfire MB... (if i wanna' go Crossfire)

[RevolutioN]

Haven't done much at this moment... sorry for going so slow.

Was a little bored last night so i thought i would start soundproofing my case and do a little bit of wiring/soldering.
BTW the mats are not stuck down as it'll be a pain if i need to do an extra bit of modding and a hassle to rip it off.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2294/dsc013045ca.jpg
^^Bottom layer done

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9906/dsc013109gu.jpg
^^Sides

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4006/dsc013115lw.jpg
^^Braided the D5's

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8792/dsc013152ix.jpg
^^Decided to make some extension wires. 1 down, 3 more to go.. all will be braided with a 90degree molex attached to one end.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9877/dsc013282vb.jpg
^^Both of the D5's are connected to one of the cables of the PSU which has 3 molex connectors, i managed to hide all the excess cables which will also be out of sight when the panels are made. The 3rd cable slots in between the second and third fan mounts of the radiator grill.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8514/dsc013299vc.jpg
^^Remember the extension wires i made? Well they are going to attach to the molex/es, through the drive bay holes and plugged into the drives for a neater look.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1176/panels7hc.jpg
^^Bottom base panels designed using Autocad. The 2 small rectangular panels in this pic are going to be fitted on each side of the outter drive bays.
Top panel will be 3mm Acrylic, middle and bottom panel will be using 8mm acylic... to give the PSU wires some space when i come to tidying it all up.
I was going to use smoked black plexi... but now Kustom have Mirror acylic, think i'll switch to that :D *yum*

Received my Storm G4 waterblock yesterday and been busy plaing with that

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/316/dsc013909qq.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7440/dsc013947wj.jpg
Nicely lapped and pretty shiny^^

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1091/dsc014129ga.jpg
The panels which i have designed will be lazer cut when i come back from holiday, plus whether Scampi wants me to, i might get his panels done too... but in the mean time i'm still waiting for one of my res bay mounts which should arrive by Tuesday.

[RevolutioN]

Proposed loop set-up.. i was bored:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4526/loop8xz.jpg

[f.sardis]

very very cool setup you got there.

[Leeum]

Looks great mate, keep it up! :)

[coolmiester]

Very nice indeed :cool:

[RevolutioN]

Just got back from HK so i'm feeling a bit under the weather with jetlag and the cold :(

Anyways, i managed to get hold of a X1900XTX and a Soundblaster XFI at bargain prices over there... less than $3000 for both.. which is around £200-250.

Here are the pics :)

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3916/11ze2.jpg
Gigabyte X1900XTX ^^

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7408/21et.jpg
XFI slotted in^^

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8601/32hu1.jpg
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MY EK block also arrived for my graphics card and it looks mint... very shiny indeed!^^

I won't be watercooling the graphics just yet as i will need to test it first. Considering its from HK i need to make sure the card is OK and not fubarred.

Thats all for now... more updates when i get better ;)

[Og01]

OMG! Ok im more than a bit envious of your case! Its gunna be soooooo lush once you've finished, keep it up man!

[Teebor]

Proposed loop set-up.. i was bored:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4526/loop8xz.jpg

so how do I get to kings cross? :D

I like the look of that case dude, I almost fell off my chair with the comment about the fans :lol:

Looking forward to seeing more.

[RevolutioN]

Kings cross... hmm i forgot to add that.. hehe

Cheers people.. more will be done when i'm fit enough to do more.. at the moment, i'm not feeling too well :(

[sunnyg]

On the red line what is the Fm?

[RevolutioN]

On the red line what is the Fm?

The Flow Meter.. does exactly what it says on the tin :P it displays (via software) the flow of the water

[f.sardis]

hey revolution
im looking for a flat mate. you rent some space in that case? ill be happy to move in. can i have more pics of the living room? i wanna see where i can put my plasma screen.

[RevolutioN]

hey revolution
im looking for a flat mate. you rent some space in that case? ill be happy to move in. can i have more pics of the living room? i wanna see where i can put my plasma screen.


LMAO!!! :D

[RevolutioN]

Little Update. But have good news and bad news.

Good news is that both loops are ready and once my comp was running.. temps were low and very nice.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7896/dsc016815eu.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4774/dsc016829se.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8082/dsc016830iv.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9895/dsc016840br.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5519/dsc016887ne.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2992/dsc016907vk.jpg
Sensor 1= CPU
Sensor 2=GPU


Now time for the bad news.... my CPU pump died on me :mad:

[RevolutioN]

Found out the problem.. and now my rigs a COMPLETE mess

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1835/dsc016910in.jpg


The leak was nothing astonishingly though i didn't noitice i was spilling some de-ionised water all over the place :mad:

The problem: The molex connector from my pump snapped off :eek:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3306/dsc016954ai.jpg

EDIT: Found the main leak... no where near the tubing! Its actually inside the pump and i don't know how to fix the bugger... and i don't want a replacement

Keeps leaking out of the screw on cap on the D5.

Any ideas?

[RevolutioN]

Update:

Pretty much everything has been on halt for the moment as i'm still waiting for my Aquacomputer Aquadrive. Then again they are pretty rare in the UK and even in Germany where they are made.

The watercooling has already been re-bled but i noticed the Seasonic was a little sluggish. Me thinks its time to replace it with a Tagan 900w or 1.1Kw. Maybe overkill for what my set-up currently is but what the heck... its future proof.

Made a lil' test bracket to cover the middle as you can still see the bunch of wires crammed in there. Will make the proper one after work.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1093/dsc01887or4.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3816/dsc01885uf0.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6720/dsc01890gx4.jpg

Also found a guy who is willing to fliptone/primatic my case for a reasonable price. Lets just hope i have enough money on my next Payday this week.

[RevolutioN]

Sorry about cam quality, got shaky hands from hard work.. at work hehe.

Haven't done much but once i have saved enough cash, i'll be getting this case sprays asap.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9083/dsc01891nm1.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5968/dsc01897dq9.jpg
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This is the Aquadrive and i must admit, with the HDD's in place, this drive weighs at least 2-3 Seasonic PSU's on top of one another!

[RevolutioN]

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[RevolutioN]

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One thing i need to do though is either change my DVDRW for a SATA version of get the smallest IDE cable i can find. The yellow ones DFI provide are rather big as you can see in the pics.

I'm leaving the side panels off for the summer as my rooms the hottest in the house and so room temp is between 20-30c especially at night.

As it stands:

CPU @ 24c idle
@ 29c load

GPU @ 41c idle (overclocked not massively, only around 50mhz increase on core and memory)
@ 46c load

Ram @ 41c idle and no change at load

Chipset @ 42c idle and no change at load

Aquadrive @ 33c idle and around 38c load/write

ps. will take photos again once my hand stops shaking lol

The CPU will be overclocked later as i want to make sure everything burnt in well :)

There is still one more slot in the drives i have to fill and thats going to be a VL-Systems M-Play controller which should arrive by Tuesday


Edit. Oh and a 320Gb Seagate 7200.10 is on the way to replace my corrupt HDD as well as a Seagate 750Gb to act as a back up for all of my other stuff.

Overall desk shot of the case....

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/885/dsc01939kh8.jpg



...as well as my new and yummy Logitech G15 Keyboard. A must have!

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2331/dsc01929tl6.jpg

[Conan257]

Mountain Mods... I was so close to getting one of those.... Glad I got my Yeong Yang cube instead, much more sensible size.

[Bubbles]

looks great mate and how is that keyboard is it worth the money?

[Klekkus]

What is the dimensions on that cube? :roll:

[Conan257]

They are 18" cube. Thats about a half metre in each direction.... Massive!

[RevolutioN]

looks great mate and how is that keyboard is it worth the money?


The keyboards are great IMO and well worth the cash :D


They are 18" cube. Thats about a half metre in each direction.... Massive!

Still not enough space for me though.

[Klekkus]

They are 18" cube. Thats about a half metre in each direction.... Massive!
Reminds mo of the Lian Li cube (http://www.microplex.no/product.aspx?pid=PC343B) 46x46x46cm

[sunnyg]

What are you running on your G15 display. looks like some sort of dj thing?

[RevolutioN]

What are you running on your G15 display. looks like some sort of dj thing?


Lol... no no...

The G15 cycles through:

LCD Clock
Performance Monitor: CPU/Ram Usage
Media Display
Countdown/Stopwatch Timer (Thats what it is on the pic)

[RevolutioN]

Little update: (More of a review that anything)

(Sorry if pictures are dark... delivered in the morning and i took photos while in bed :) )

Received my new display from Yoyotech: The VL-Systems M-Play Controller

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7387/dsc01946yt7.jpg
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Cable and installation disk as well as the usual screws to fit in the drive bays.
I couldn't get a proper image of the front because its so shiny and kept reflecting off everything...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/962/dsc01954ub6.jpg
The rear of the controller. Only has the connection port and nothing else.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7093/dsc01959mb7.jpg
Shame the cables white/beige. Doesn't really suit the colour of my rig. Will spray that black and hide it within the case. Length of the cable is over 30cm long so threading it around the case will be easy.
Its also an only external cable.. meaning i got to loop it around the back of the case which is a pain... wanted it internally fitted :( Looks like, i'll be making a little hole in a spare PCI slot cover to thread it through.. therefore tidying it up a bit.

[RevolutioN]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9824/dsc01984ns6.jpg
Can't say much about the remote though as with all other remotes.. it does look kinda' tacky/cheap looking. Oh well, as long as it does what it does, i can't complain.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9228/dsc01958pc0.jpg
Slotted into my case. Only need to change the silver bezel of my Aquaero to black now.. to complete the theme.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2978/dsc01979zp3.jpg
Installed and configured. Now no more getting out of bed to switch on/off PC and control my musiv/movies automatically :)

Allows me to control all my applications and turn on/off my PC via Remote... very handy indeed.. and the display looks lush!

[Conan257]

I... Love... Those... Cubes....

Just hella expensive.... I'm so jealous.

[sunnyg]

Lol... no no...

The G15 cycles through:

LCD Clock
Performance Monitor: CPU/Ram Usage
Media Display
Countdown/Stopwatch Timer (Thats what it is on the pic)


LOL. i was getting excited for a minute. Hold on? why have you got a stop watch on your keyboard lcd screen?


have you bothered making any of your own lcd thingies or using any gaming ones? i tried the CCS one but it didna work,

[RevolutioN]

LOL. i was getting excited for a minute. Hold on? why have you got a stop watch on your keyboard lcd screen?


have you bothered making any of your own lcd thingies or using any gaming ones? i tried the CCS one but it didna work,

I've no idea where there is a stopwatch on it... but i disabled it cos' its kinda' useless.

I have yet to mess with the G keys or configure them... can't find a decent game which i will use them with apart from CS1.6... Source suck IMO

[RevolutioN]

Updated pics of my beloved rig. 3 separate loop cooling madness :bigsmile:

Heres the set-up all finished: (3.4Ghz 1.4v)

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1139/dsc02044tu9.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6345/dsc02045fh8.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6108/dsc02046ro4.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8198/dsc02051bb0.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2707/dsc02053js0.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2978/dsc01979zp3.jpg


And here are the temps:

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6339/aadk0.jpg

BTW the tubing is meant to be red.. but it looks orange.. camera pics don't do justice tbh.

[Rig]

Thats some heavy cooling, nice setup there!

[koola]

wow, that's some job you pulled off :cool:

Great temps too!

[Rig]

The temps are not really that suprising considering the amount of cooling in it!

[ash77ah]

One word SICK!!!

[b1g-d0g]

Question do you get pci blanking plates with this case?