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m3rcil3ss
05-09-2005, 08:42 PM
Fantastic, Put all me water cooling set-up in the Lian Li plumbed it all in and set it to go ........

Sounds simple, but it was a long ol project (on and off for 3 days i played with it) which i have taken a few pic's of which i'll post later in the week.

Getting A 120X3 rad inside your case is a mean feet i'll tell you and if your considering trying i'd say unless your case is at least as big as the V2000 forget it !!

The system has now been running for two and a half days leak free so i'm fairly confident it's sound.

Temps are cpu 37/38 idle and i think 42 was tops under load, case temp is 37 so i'm happy with that

My X800 is now showing a gpu temp of 31 idle but i've get to play a couple of hours of bf2 and see what she reads

Oh temps were taken with my prescot 3.4 @ 4gig (highest ever OC achieved) and GFX at default. (Matrix Orbital setting the noise blocker fans on rad. to 55% only :+) )

Pic's to come but lets just say water cooling rocks
Aphex
05-09-2005, 11:42 PM
glad ur enjoying your system!! sounds pretty nice, get that gfx card over clocked too, ati tool will do all the business for u u just have to leave it running for an couple of hours for gpu and the same for your ram, ramsinks r def ur friends in that though!

get some benchmarks up as well, and what fsb r u running at?
m3rcil3ss
06-09-2005, 08:33 AM
Prescot is @ 235 fsb to get 4gig well 3999 anyway. She'll go to 250fsb if i lock the multidown to 14 on my asus p4c800. but i have found after many benchmarks that 225/235 fsb with the 17 multiplier gives better results.

As for overclocking the X800 i was trying that last night :( a max core of 535 and 585 for the mem were found so only a slight improvement over std !!
Aphex
06-09-2005, 12:20 PM
what are the standards for the x800? 500/500? remember the memory needs to be doubled so that is almost 1200DDR which is nice!!!
m3rcil3ss
06-09-2005, 01:20 PM
no 520 / 560 sorry forgot to say it's an X800XT PE so fastest available when i got it
Aphex
06-09-2005, 04:15 PM
ahhh, i have a mate who has an x800 that clocks about that [sorry!!] so he must have been lucky with the core he got, mind u i did look at it and it said x800 pro on the core itself, can any1 shed any light on if he might be able to get it to pro standards? cheers!!
koola
06-09-2005, 04:46 PM
I want pics :twisted:
Lemmingzappa
06-09-2005, 06:12 PM
ahhh, i have a mate who has an x800 that clocks about that [sorry!!] so he must have been lucky with the core he got, mind u i did look at it and it said x800 pro on the core itself, can any1 shed any light on if he might be able to get it to pro standards? cheers!!

you can unlock the extra pipelines on pro cards to make them xt's. and I guess you might have more overclocking capabilities that way, google for it :)
Leeum
06-09-2005, 06:21 PM
you can unlock the extra pipelines on pro cards to make them xt's. and I guess you might have more overclocking capabilities that way, google for it :)

Only if it's an X800 Pro VIVO I'm afriad :(
Aphex
06-09-2005, 07:35 PM
i know about the x800 pro to xt [u need to have a card capable of xt speeds when over clocked and then u just flash the bios] but i was wondering if there was anyway to get an x800 to an x800 pro?
m3rcil3ss
06-09-2005, 10:47 PM
I want pics :twisted:

I'll try for tomorrow, if my new sata cable's turn up. I'm not posting a completed pic of the inside's with my drives hanging out the back :'( .

But i'm pretty please with the way it looks. Mate coming around at the weekend who works in a machine shop to take a look at the side panel with a view to cutting it for a window and venting for the rad. :)

With refference to my GFX it don't clock all that well, it never has but i bought it cause at the time i wanted the fastest and didn't want to take chance's on wether a "whatever" would overclock as far as an XT PE.

Bit like the prescot really it don't go all that far but then again 3.8 100% stable and 4gig for benching ain't all that shabby ?
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:03 AM
Pic's but i tell you there EXTREMELY 56k UNFRIENDLY

You need one of these before modding anything !! http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1852.JPG

Case before modding http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1813.JPG

Case after alittle cutting but that upper card support also had to be removed http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1817.JPG

An X800 minus standard heat sink http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1815.JPG

X800 underside with new ram sinks and Dangerden block installed http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1848.jpg

Mboard cpu block and res. in http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1850.JPG
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1851.JPG

Case rear view everthing installed http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1853.JPG

Very little room for the pump (I need a modular power supply so i can lose some of that wiring) http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1854.JPG
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1855.JPG

All installed and running :) http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1856.JPG
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1857.JPG
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1859.jpg
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rod/IMG_1870.JPG

Needs it's side panel doing now and more wire tidying then were done :)
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:06 AM
Sorry, i should also say one of my main priorities was to cut up the case as little as possible ....... I change my mind on things like the wind but I REALLY like the case and didn't want to mess it up !!

Getting a new side panel if i change things around is nothing, but a new case altogether well that's a different story :eek:
Aphex
08-09-2005, 12:20 AM
can i draw your attention to this web page, in particular to the bottom, from the looks of things your ram is rated to 1200MHz ddr, get ati tool on it and max that bandwidth out. i found this today looking for a mate who's x800 ram will do over 500MHz when stock is suppoused to be like 350, it turns out he has the "worst" of that samsung ddr2, which is not surprisingly rated at 500MHz [1GHz ddr] with some ramsinks i think he pushes 1100MHz ddr

hope that helps, and enjoy that extra bandwidth i know i would!!!
Aphex
08-09-2005, 12:27 AM
ok, scrap mayb, i just enlarged the pic and u def have the samsung 600MHz ddr2 modules on there, lucky son of a gun. it seeems like x800's are shipping with some fast ram attached, that is almost twice the stock speed, and with the ramsinks u have on there i think u should def be able to push it to twice the stock imo [well, there or there abouts] the performance increase in that should be ENORMOUS if u haven't ever used ati tool it is soooooo easy, all u do is tell it to find your max gpu and it will and will even take the clock down when it finds a problem [leaving it overnight will def have ur best speed by the morning] and the same for your ram, but as i said yours is rated to 1200MHz ddr anyway!!

i hope u enjoy that snippet!!
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:27 AM
can i draw your attention to this web page, in particular to the bottom, from the looks of things your ram is rated to 1200MHz ddr, get ati tool on it and max that bandwidth out. i found this today looking for a mate who's x800 ram will do over 500MHz when stock is suppoused to be like 350, it turns out he has the "worst" of that samsung ddr2, which is not surprisingly rated at 500MHz [1GHz ddr] with some ramsinks i think he pushes 1100MHz ddr

hope that helps, and enjoy that extra bandwidth i know i would!!!

Thanks for the info , but after having installed and run ati tool the most i can get out of my RAM is 585 or 1170 and that ain't even that stable :( RAM SINKS installed and all per the pic's OH and they get real hot too!!
Aphex
08-09-2005, 12:30 AM
if u get some airflow over them they should be fine, even the dirty air from one of your rads should be good enough, and ati tool should tell u when it hits an artifact and reduce the clock, if it ain;t stable take it back anyway, the last thing u want is to have been playing your fave game and get a gfx hardware failure recovery!!

still get some benchmarks up for it at stock and at the best overclock, how did the overclock on the gpu go with the new waterblock?
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:33 AM
LOL about 10 mhz further than Std too :( 520 std. it'll do 526 with ati's overdrive and about 535 with ti tool before crashing occures really often .
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:33 AM
just a poor clocking card i think.........
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 12:45 AM
gpu runs at around 40 deg. now though which i think is like 10 deg. less than before i went to water cooling. (thats measured though ati tool on the gpu NOT on the temperature chip)

If anyone can tell me what there X800 is running at temp wise i'd be greatful !!
Leeum
08-09-2005, 08:05 AM
40°C for your X800 is fine. It's normal for GPU's to run well into the 100's with stock heatsinks :)

Looks great so far, what dye are you running?
koola
08-09-2005, 09:53 AM
That's an interesting place for your rad. With loads of space in your case, you could of mounted the rad like this (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=1037473&postcount=125)
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 08:31 PM
That look's really nice. But he obviously access to far more machinery than i do :( . VERY impressive all the same
m3rcil3ss
08-09-2005, 08:33 PM
40°C for your X800 is fine. It's normal for GPU's to run well into the 100's with stock heatsinks :)

Looks great so far, what dye are you running?

The dark UV blue from coolercase's mix'd to there recommendations
m3rcil3ss
09-09-2005, 12:09 PM
I don't understand this but, If i look at the gpu temp via the display properties and then the ati overdrive panel it shows a temp of 40/41 deg but using ati tray tools it's showing 90/91 and i don't think that's fahrenheit because 90f = 32c :(
m3rcil3ss
11-09-2005, 12:48 AM
Right it is reading deg's F but there's an off-set within ati's monitoring to allow for the thermistor placement. (changed read out to deg. C now too)

Also voltmodded my X800 (well drew over it anyway) and have now just benched 3d05 @ 590/590 speeds :) that resulted in a score of 6731.

So if i can find the Variable resistors to do the job properly that'll probably be my next project !

If anyone can help me out there i'd really appreciate it as i've been unable to find them all online anywhere yet :S

10k , 20k + 250k needed cheers
m3rcil3ss
14-09-2005, 01:36 AM
anyone ??
Leeum
14-09-2005, 08:01 AM
Is this (http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=518&MenuName=Potentiometers&FromMenu=y&doy=14m9&worldid=32) the sort of thing you're looking for?
Teebor
14-09-2005, 09:29 AM
I bought the 18 turn ones from maplins for my 9800pro.

Nice and cheap and should do the job nicely.

Teebor
m3rcil3ss
14-09-2005, 10:21 AM
Is this (http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=518&MenuName=Potentiometers&FromMenu=y&doy=14m9&worldid=32) the sort of thing you're looking for?

Perfect but for the fact that they don't do them in the value's the guide says i need :|
DavidREmett
18-09-2005, 02:52 AM
Hey,
They do a good range of variable resistors ("potentiometers") at rapid:
http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk/rkmain.asp?PAGEID=80008&CTL_CAT_CODE=30379

If you can't find the exact values (They don't seem to do 250k, nearest being 200k and 500k) you might be able to add a few fixed resistors in to get the same effect :)

btw nice rig :D